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Locals to oppose Terry’s schemes until traffic dealt with

3:17pm Tuesday 12th February 2008

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By Gavin Aitchison »

VILLAGERS living near the Terry's site in York have hit out at development plans, claiming they could have a "devastating" impact.

Bishopthorpe Parish Council says it will oppose all planning applications at the former chocolate factory, until a detailed traffic management plan is produced.

As reported in The Press last week, North Yorkshire developer Harrison has submitted a fresh planning application for the site, seeking to build new rooftop offices over a former time-keeping building.

But the parish council has objected, claiming there is no need for the additional office space; the changes are out of keeping with the listed building; and the traffic impact of the scheme would be detrimental.

In a statement submitted by its clerk Cayley Godfrey, the council wrote: "Our concern over the site development has been the issue of traffic generation and its effect on our village.

"Previous traffic surveys or assessments have played down this effect. We now see a piecemeal application which, on paper, would have no effect on the village.

"If this is to be allowed by other separate applications for the site and considered individually, then the total effect, which will be devastating to the village, will be concealed."

The parish council also challenged the traffic figures contained in the report, saying: "Experts using fancy models and criteria may believe these figures, but we are sure the man in the street does not."

The council added: "Until a traffic plan is produced that reflects an accuracy of traffic movements for the whole site and then minimising its effect on Bishopthorpe, the parish council will oppose all applications for the site.

"In addition, for this application, we do not consider the alterations to the time office are in keeping with its status as a listed building."

Micklegate Planning Panel said it was not opposed in principle to the third storey, as it did not think it would be visible from ground level.

But it objected to plans for an extension to the rear, saying it was "completely out of keeping" with the main office.

A Harrison spokesman told The Press that an "in-house travel plan co-ordinator" would encourage people using the site to commit to eco-friendly travel.

He also said the development would be a "beacon scheme" that would retain the fabric and appearance of the listed building.

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plaggy terry, classic cutz heworth says...
3:36pm Tue 12 Feb 08

ell, what’s this new feeling coming out of the streets
Everybody’s talking ‘bout it wherever they meet
Down by the corner, I keep getting the heat
Then my feet start moving to the rhythmic beat

Zaphrentites, York says...
3:39pm Tue 12 Feb 08

So the redevelopment of the site which was heralded as a major opportunity to bring much needed employment to the City is going to be bogged down for the forseeable future by a bunch of militant NIMBY's.I bet that Grantside are highly delighted with their purchase now.

bernard, says...
3:39pm Tue 12 Feb 08

A Harrison spokesman told The Press that an "in-house travel plan co-ordinator" would encourage people using the site to commit to eco-friendly travel.

But if they all choose to drive their cars, well never mind, at least we tried. What rubbish, if they are serious how about not providing car parking on the site?

Voice of reason, York says...
3:41pm Tue 12 Feb 08

Terry - you have lost it sir!

i am the stig, in my car says...
3:53pm Tue 12 Feb 08

Voice of reason wrote:
Terry - you have lost it sir!
It seems the fake tan chemicals have finally made it to his brain!

Voice of reason, York says...
4:04pm Tue 12 Feb 08

He's put the same lyrics on the Blue Smarties "story" too!

Bonkers!

Charlie, York says...
4:46pm Tue 12 Feb 08

"Experts using fancy models and criteria may believe these figures, but we are sure the man in the street does not."


So what exactly would the 'man on the street' base traffic figures on? Presumably a non expert with an absolutely non fancy model...

the Butler, Cowichan Bay B.C Canada says...
5:33pm Tue 12 Feb 08

Didn't the original plan call for a survey of all possible outcomes with regard to traffic, Access for fire department, emergency movement of people, should a calamity take place?
also are these changes to the building, after the first plan?

Peter, york says...
5:36pm Tue 12 Feb 08

Charlie wrote:
"Experts using fancy models and criteria may believe these figures, but we are sure the man in the street does not."
So what exactly would the 'man on the street' base traffic figures on? Presumably a non expert with an absolutely non fancy model...
The so called experts with their models, got the A1237 tottally wrong, and the man on the street was proved right.

Peter, york says...
5:39pm Tue 12 Feb 08

how about not providing car parking on the site?


That would be York College all over again with the surrounding are choked with parked cars

ouserower, york says...
7:11pm Tue 12 Feb 08

Well the traffic system seemed to work well when it was a factory employing hundreds. Cannot see the problem here myself.

Franky, York says...
7:15pm Tue 12 Feb 08

Good point ouserower, good point.

ALD, York says...
7:43pm Tue 12 Feb 08

The only really practical solution would be a new link road from Bishopthorpe Road to Sim Balk Lane to the North of the A64. This would solve race day traffic through Bishopthorpe village as well as construction traffic to the Terry's site and subsequent traffic from that site once developed.
The race course people and the developers of Terry's should pay the cost as planning gain without any costs falling on the public purse.

Franky, York says...
7:50pm Tue 12 Feb 08

Agree entirely ALD.

plaggy terry, classic cutz heworth says...
12:43am Wed 13 Feb 08

Locals to oppose Terry’s schemes until traffic dealt with

dont understand this, i dont have a scheme, or any problem with traffic,,

brummie-ian, south bank says...
10:36am Wed 13 Feb 08

ALD wrote:
The only really practical solution would be a new link road from Bishopthorpe Road to Sim Balk Lane to the North of the A64. This would solve race day traffic through Bishopthorpe village as well as construction traffic to the Terry's site and subsequent traffic from that site once developed. The race course people and the developers of Terry's should pay the cost as planning gain without any costs falling on the public purse.
I've always thought that a new link road would be a good idea - it could "just" fit parallel to the A64 if the racecourse starts were slightly modified.

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