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| York Model Railway's building in York Station |
IT has been a top destination for train enthusiasts for nearly 25 years.
But staff at York Model Railway fear they could now be derailed, to make way for the multi-million-pound revamp of York Station.
William Heron, the attraction's managing director, has warned that the firm cannot afford to fund a relocation, and says that unless someone else pays for them to move, they will close.
As previously reported in The Press, GNER drew up plans for a major redevelopment of the station, shortly before losing its franchise to National Express East Coast.
The proposals include a first-floor development, ten new shops, and an expanded main concourse, and would see the model railway building converted back into a tea-room, as it was before the model railway was set up in 1984.
National Express is now "reviewing" the plans ahead of submitting a formal application. The firm would not comment specifically on the attraction's future.
Mr Heron said: "The relocation of York Model Railway would involve up to six months, to dismantle and rebuild the model railway layouts.
"York Model Railway could not fund this cost and it would mean the loss of this amenity to York, unless the resiting could be to a location at least as viable as the present site and funded by GNER or their successor."
He said the attraction was best kept at the station, as it is railway-associated. He said: "As far as we are concerned, we keep running it as long as we can, but it is not an easy thing to move."
The station plans have also been criticised by Micklegate Planning Panel, which assesses proposed developments in that area of the city. In a written submission to the council, the panel said: "The tourist information centre will be lost and the travel centre - already inadequate in size - will be made yet smaller as part of the development, to cram in yet more shops.
"It appears we are so busy worrying about retail opportunities' that we have forgotten what the railway station is for."
But York Civic Trust has supported the plans, saying they were well thought-through, and would preserve the Victorian buildings.
A spokesman for City of York Council said an application for listed building alterations had been received, but redevelopment required full planning permission. He said the authority was awaiting submission of the necessary documents.
10:15am Wednesday 26th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: lastword morris, Haxby Rd on 10:25am Wed 26 Mar 08
Turn it back into a tea room NOT another stinking rotten overpriced "I'm so cool, I can sit about alll day" Starbucks (or similar)
Turn it back into a tea room NOT another stinking rotten overpriced "I'm so cool, I can sit about alll day" Starbucks (or similar)
Posted by: The York Citizen, York on 10:42am Wed 26 Mar 08
There are currently EIGHT stalls/cafes on York Station!
There are currently EIGHT stalls/cafes on York Station!
Posted by: YorkieMan, York, UK on 11:36am Wed 26 Mar 08
Is there a role for the National Railway Museum in this?
Is there a role for the National Railway Museum in this?
Posted by: brummie-ian, south bank on 11:42am Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]lastword morris[/bold] wrote:
Turn it back into a tea room NOT another stinking rotten overpriced "I'm so cool, I can sit about alll day" Starbucks (or similar)[/quote] agreed - any chance of a reasonably priced food & drink outlet promoting Yorkshire produce.? - probably not......
lastword morris wrote:
Turn it back into a tea room NOT another stinking rotten overpriced "I'm so cool, I can sit about alll day" Starbucks (or similar)
agreed - any chance of a reasonably priced food & drink outlet promoting Yorkshire produce.? - probably not......
Posted by: Cynic, York on 12:16pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote]agreed - any chance of a reasonably priced food & drink outlet promoting Yorkshire produce.? - probably not......[/quote] Have you ever come across a reasonably-priced shop or cafe in a railway station? I haven't.
agreed - any chance of a reasonably priced food & drink outlet promoting Yorkshire produce.? - probably not......
Have you ever come across a reasonably-priced shop or cafe in a railway station? I haven't.
Posted by: Mark, York on 12:52pm Wed 26 Mar 08
It's a "top attraction"? I thought it closed years ago - not exactly the most welcoming museum is it?
It's a "top attraction"? I thought it closed years ago - not exactly the most welcoming museum is it?
Posted by: Bob Reid, York on 1:58pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Will be very sad to see this place go. The old Railriders World! Good old National Express; now they've decimated GNER they're going after a MINIATURE railway!
Rather ironic given their latest advertising campaign depicting a model railway with the link to Miniature Prices.
Will be very sad to see this place go. The old Railriders World! Good old National Express; now they've decimated GNER they're going after a MINIATURE railway!
Rather ironic given their latest advertising campaign depicting a model railway with the link to Miniature Prices.
Posted by: Axe Man Jack, York on 2:19pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Does anyone really care?
Posted by: ennoch, York on 2:38pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Axe Man Jack[/bold] wrote:
Does anyone really care?[/quote] Thomas and friends may have a thing or too to say, however the fat contoller has excepted a fat redundancy payment and is now living it up in legoland on a more than adequate pension.
Axe Man Jack wrote:
Does anyone really care?
Thomas and friends may have a thing or too to say, however the fat contoller has excepted a fat redundancy payment and is now living it up in legoland on a more than adequate pension.
Posted by: Willow, York on 2:40pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Maybe NXEC should concentrate on refurbishing the gents toilets on platform 3/4 instead. Good idea though about transferring the model railway to the NRM, space permitting.
Maybe NXEC should concentrate on refurbishing the gents toilets on platform 3/4 instead. Good idea though about transferring the model railway to the NRM, space permitting.
Posted by: YorkieMan, York, UK on 2:40pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]ennoch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Axe Man Jack[/bold] wrote:
Does anyone really care?[/quote] Thomas and friends may have a thing or too to say, however the fat contoller has excepted a fat redundancy payment and is now living it up in legoland on a more than adequate pension.[/quote] You mean 'accepted' surely? I'll be generous and say it was a slip of the keyboard!
ennoch wrote:
Axe Man Jack wrote:
Does anyone really care?
Thomas and friends may have a thing or too to say, however the fat contoller has excepted a fat redundancy payment and is now living it up in legoland on a more than adequate pension.
You mean 'accepted' surely? I'll be generous and say it was a slip of the keyboard!
Posted by: ennoch, York on 2:42pm Wed 26 Mar 08
You mean 'accepted' surely? I'll be generous and say it was a slip of the keyboard!
Your too kind!
You mean 'accepted' surely? I'll be generous and say it was a slip of the keyboard!
Your too kind!
Posted by: ouserower, york on 10:45pm Wed 26 Mar 08
The reason why there is never a reasonably oriced coffee/food outlet is the station regularly puts tenders out and the highest bidder prepared to pay the most rent wins. Thats why the good privatley run cafe on the bridge became a Costa cafe. NO doubt M&S Simply food will move in soon.
The reason why there is never a reasonably oriced coffee/food outlet is the station regularly puts tenders out and the highest bidder prepared to pay the most rent wins. Thats why the good privatley run cafe on the bridge became a Costa cafe. NO doubt M&S Simply food will move in soon.
Posted by: franky, york on 11:21pm Wed 26 Mar 08
It's so small the model railway could fit in the foyer of the Press office on Walmgate - plenty of room to spare last time I popped in.
It's so small the model railway could fit in the foyer of the Press office on Walmgate - plenty of room to spare last time I popped in.
Posted by: UncleFester, York on 3:14am Thu 27 Mar 08
Sadly for some this is all down to market forces. If the model railway was truly popular and profitable enough, then they would surely have the money to relocate. Even more sad is that they haven "moved" with the times. Model railways,once the bastion of childhood hobbies and for adult children an escape from the wife once there congigal rights had worn out is with no surprise no longer relevent in todays modern age of video games and ipods.
A sad thread ends with an even sadder thought.
If you can make more money selling coffee than than giving people a small amount of entertainment (obviously only entertainment if you're into model trains!)
Pure simple capitalism rules the day.
PS The NRM really should grasp this opportunity.
Sadly for some this is all down to market forces. If the model railway was truly popular and profitable enough, then they would surely have the money to relocate. Even more sad is that they haven "moved" with the times. Model railways,once the bastion of childhood hobbies and for adult children an escape from the wife once there congigal rights had worn out is with no surprise no longer relevent in todays modern age of video games and ipods.
A sad thread ends with an even sadder thought.
If you can make more money selling coffee than than giving people a small amount of entertainment (obviously only entertainment if you're into model trains!)
Pure simple capitalism rules the day.
PS The NRM really should grasp this opportunity.
Posted by: Uncle Tony, York on 12:30pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Reasonably priced food and drink in the station is only known by another name - a pack up! I say keep the model railway and advertise it better so it draws more visitors.
Reasonably priced food and drink in the station is only known by another name - a pack up! I say keep the model railway and advertise it better so it draws more visitors.
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