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North Yorkshire may lose scores of phone boxes

10:18am Friday 25th July 2008

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Should phone boxes be relegated to history, or do they still have a place in the 21st Century? CLAIRE MORLEY investigates.

YESTERDAY’S announcement that more than 150 phone boxes in York and North Yorkshire are to be removed has met with strong opposition.

Phone company BT argues that with the rise of mobile phones, payphones have been made more or less redundant.

And after a 90-day consultation period with local authorities, BT has announced the removal of ten phone boxes in York, 18 in Selby, 27 in Ryedale, 21 in Scarborough, 50 in Harrogate and 31 in Hambleton.

Vale of York MP Anne McIntosh said removing phone boxes could potentially put lives at risk if people did not have a mobile phone handy to dial 999, or there was no network coverage.

She said: “I can understand that BT is under pressure to reduce its costs, but in rural areas like North Yorkshire, getting rid of phone boxes could cause a real problem.

“Not everyone has mobile phones and even people who do have them will find they can’t always get a signal in rural and hilly areas.

“If someone needs an ambulance and their mobile phone doesn’t have signal, then they could be in serious trouble.

“I am disappointed by the decision because I hoped that BT would have listened to the needs of a rural area and provided this social service to the public.”

She said she would be writing to John Hutton, the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform to voice her disappointment.

Meanwhile, York pensioner Keith Chapman, of Custance Walk, said he was horrified by BT’s announcement and had already written to the city’s MP Hugh Bayley.

He called for a return of police boxes, which were used for decades for members of the public to contact the local police station.

He said: “We must bring back police boxes. When these were closed they were replaced by the BT boxes and now we need some other alternative to make sure that life and death situations are covered by some service.

“The idea of taking the phones away that provide a service to many in case of an emergency is appalling.

“Hoping that everyone has access to a mobile phone is not ideal – what happens if the phone is in an area of poor reception?”

A BT spokesman said the company remained committed to providing a public payphone service, but where necessary, had rationalised its public payphone estate in order to meet demand.

She said: “There has been a review of our payphone network virtually since the turn of the millennium, following the rise in the popularity of mobile phones, which has resulted in a decline in payphone use.

“There is an Ofcom-approved process in place, which means when we want to remove a kiosk where there is not another within 400 metres, we consult with the relevant local authorities, explain what we want to do and why.

“They then agree, or come up with a genuine reason why we shouldn’t remove it, and then we won’t.

“Some kiosks are used less than once a month – some even haven’t been used at all in the last 12 months. The situation has become significantly worse in the last two years.”

But James Player, deputy chief officer of Age Concern, in York, said this did not matter because you could never know when an emergency was going to crop up and the phone boxes should be there in case.

He added: “I don’t think it’s such a big issue for the elderly because many older people have mobile phones or landlines.

“However, if their own phone is cut off due to the increasing debt or a fault, they would have to depend on a phone box or a neighbour and I wonder whether the elderly would be welcomed into a neighbour’s home to make an emergency phone call.”

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Pepper, york says...
1:53pm Fri 25 Jul 08

oh come on, who's ever gonna be in a situation where they desperately need to call 999 but dont have a mobile or adequate network coverage?? All over Yorkshire the only place I cant get network coverage is upstairs in H&M and I doubt very much anyone would ever be in serious peril in there.... unless the last t-shirt in my size has just been whipped out from under my eyes in which case there may be some drama

KarenWhite1978, Heslington says...
2:00pm Fri 25 Jul 08

There are plenty of places in Yorkshire with poor coverage - you clearly need to get out more! Travel just a few miles from Ilkley for example (towards Bolton Abbey).

Try living more.

Chris1982, York says...
6:40pm Fri 25 Jul 08

Lol they do need a few phone boxes and coverage isnt good everywhere.

Pedro, York says...
12:54pm Sat 26 Jul 08

There is provision for boxes to be kept if there is a social need. Which I think is a bit tough because a private business shouldn't be asked to be a charity. An emergency call from a phone box is actually better than a call from a mobile because its location is feedback. So even if it is interrupted police/emergency services could attend the scene.

Guy Fawkes, York says...
7:40am Thu 31 Jul 08

The one opposite me on the railway bridge at the corner of Bootham and Grosvenor Terrace is graffiti-strewn, vandalised and stinks of urine. On the one occasion I actually tried to use it (to report a fault on my home phone line), it was out of order.

I don't have a mobile, but even so I can't remember an occasion I've needed to use a public payphone for many years now, except when overseas.

The answer is probably to introduce some regulatory provision which requires phone boxes to be available in areas with poor signal coverage, where the need is justified on safety grounds. There may also be a case for having them in tourist areas where there are lots of visitors from abroad, who may not have mobiles at all or which work in the UK. But other than that, this is really a case of one obsolete technology being replaced with another current one.

Stu Pidd, York says...
4:30pm Mon 4 Aug 08

Keep the nice red ones in villages etc... but bin the rest. Even my gran has a mobile phone these days!!

theghostofcain, york says...
8:58pm Mon 4 Aug 08

i wonder if people will want to put these in their gardens like they do the traditional red ones?

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